Accessing Care in the New World

Accessing Care in the New World

Season 1, Episode 10

Host(s): Dr. Larry Force, Andrew O’Grady, Elisa Gwilliam

Guest(s): Brenna Hackbarth

The INTERSECTIONS Exchange team is joined by Brenna Hackbarth, a recovering alcoholic and advocate for recovery treatment. Brenna is a graduate of Marywood university and is currently based in the Albany area. At 5:30, Hacknarth shares her journey through addiction and recovery.

Topics Discussed

  • Brenna’s recovery journey
  • Feeling alone in addiction
  • Stigma around addiction
  • Barriers to recovery treatment
  • History of MHA National
  • Technology in recovery during the pandemic and beyond


Key Quote(s)

  • “Connecting therapeutically is valuable, but sometimes it’s an epiphany … like a snapping of the fingers where you start looking at it differently and start realizing this is not the life I want to live.” – Dr. Larry Force
  • “We have deinstitutionalized some people into a phantom network that doesn’t exist … there should be a place in the middle.” – Andrew O’Grady
  • “Your mind changes constantly, and there might only be a little window where you are willing to get help.” – Brenna Hackbarth


INTERSECTIONS is an innovative, peer delivered, modular self-care program developed by the National Organization of Adult Addictions and Recovery (NOAAR) and Mental Health America of Dutchess County.

Addiction, chronic illness, and mental health are dimensions in our lives that isolate us. They isolate us from ourselves, from others, and from our spirit. INTERSECTIONS helps us connect and reconnect to reach our full potential.

INTERSECTIONS promotes the reduction of reoccurrence, improved maintenance of recovery plans, and success within family systems and the community.

Modules include:

  • Orientation
  • Meditation
  • Movement
  • Nutrition
  • Mindfulness
  • Personal Visions and Goals
  • Spirituality

INTERSECTIONS is based on a theoretical orientation called The Theory of Dimensionality and is rooted in a Practice-Based Intervention, Dimensional Solution Based Treatment (DSBT).

“We cannot fix you because you are not broken … everybody has stuff. We are all in Recovery from something.”

About MHA Dutchess County

Mental Health America of Dutchess County is a nonprofit organization dedicated to making sure nobody gets left behind in our community due to lack of mental health services. Our staff and volunteers work day and night to:

  • Strengthen families
  • Overcome fear
  • Help people dealing with anxiety
  • Link individuals to the supports they need
  • Provide safe spaces to heal
  • Break down stigma
  • …and much, much more.