Creativity During Recovery

Creativity During Recovery

Season 1, Episode 7

Host(s): Dr. Larry Force, Andrew O’Grady, Elisa Gwilliam

Guest(s): Mark Bryan: author, speaker, consultant

Author, speaker and consultant Mark Bryan joins the INTERSECTIONS Exchange team to speak on his creative process and psychological approach to recovery. Bryan also discusses reframing recovery as a more solution-oriented journey and the therapeutic power of positivity. Mark is the co-author of The Artist’s Way, The Artist’s Way at Work, and The Artist’s Way Workshops focused on using our creative talents.

Topics Discussed

  • Dealing with anxiety during the pandemic
  • Framing creating community as a creative process
  • Involving family in recovery
  • Terminology shift from “mental illness” to “mental health/wellness” and “post-traumatic stress” to “post-traumatic growth”
  • Power of movement to mental health
  • Understanding therapy as a tool to look at life through a different lens


Key Quote(s)

  • “Looking at a different way to treat people is so vital and so important because we’re still learning how to do it. It’s in its infancy in this country, the treatment of mental health and addiction—and by no means are we great at it.” – Andrew O’Grady
  • “Change the language from the problem to the solution…this change into a much more holistic, more family-centered, more systems-oriented approach is admirable.” – Mark Bryan
  • “I refer more patients to gymnasiums and the healing center than I do to psychiatry … because if you feel better about yourself, you feel better about the things around you … and everything passes.” – Dr. Larry Force


INTERSECTIONS is an innovative, peer delivered, modular self-care program developed by the National Organization of Adult Addictions and Recovery (NOAAR) and Mental Health America of Dutchess County.

Addiction, chronic illness, and mental health are dimensions in our lives that isolate us. They isolate us from ourselves, from others, and from our spirit. INTERSECTIONS helps us connect and reconnect to reach our full potential.

INTERSECTIONS promotes the reduction of reoccurrence, improved maintenance of recovery plans, and success within family systems and the community.

Modules include:

  • Orientation
  • Meditation
  • Movement
  • Nutrition
  • Mindfulness
  • Personal Visions and Goals
  • Spirituality

INTERSECTIONS is based on a theoretical orientation called The Theory of Dimensionality and is rooted in a Practice-Based Intervention, Dimensional Solution Based Treatment (DSBT).

“We cannot fix you because you are not broken … everybody has stuff. We are all in Recovery from something.”

About MHA Dutchess County

Mental Health America of Dutchess County is a nonprofit organization dedicated to making sure nobody gets left behind in our community due to lack of mental health services. Our staff and volunteers work day and night to:

  • Strengthen families
  • Overcome fear
  • Help people dealing with anxiety
  • Link individuals to the supports they need
  • Provide safe spaces to heal
  • Break down stigma
  • …and much, much more.