No Boundaries

No Boundaries

Season 2, Episode 2

Host(s): Dr. Larry Force, Andrew O’Grady, Elisa Gwilliam

Guest(s): Clint Crawford: author, Executive Director of Journey Pure in Knoxville, Tennessee, psychology PhD candidate

The INTERSECTIONS Exchange team is joined by Clint Crawford, the Executive Director of Journey Pure, to discuss the connections between mental health and addiction. Crawford shares his personal journey into the recovery field and his innovative approaches to mental health and addiction therapy.

Topics Discussed

  • Equine therapy
  • Clint Crawford’s journey to the mental health and addiction fields
  • Historic lack of mental health resources in the southern U.S.
  • Importance of continuity of care for patients on Medicaid
  • Community-based care and solution-based therapy
  • Intersections of addiction and mental health
  • Crawford’s journey as an author
  • The role of the family in addiction
  • Equine and canine therapy


Key Quote(s)

  • “The most important intervention in the whole mental health system…is community-based care management—working with somebody in their place.” – Andrew O’Grady
  • “Everyone looks at the world differently based on their lens of training…I had been trained in one paradigm, but [solution-based] therapy was like a breath of fresh air because it wasn’t about problems.” – Dr. Larry Force
  • “Mental health and addiction are like the carburetor and the engine in a car…if you only fix the carburetor you’ve still got an engine that isn’t going to run right and it’s probably going to tear up the rest of the engine before it’s over with…mental health and addiction feed each other” – Clint Crawford
  • “Your love is not a sociopath, this is just what happens in addiction…when an addict is sick in active addiction, every person that loves that person is sick as well in different ways.” – Clint Crawford


INTERSECTIONS is an innovative, peer delivered, modular self-care program developed by the National Organization of Adult Addictions and Recovery (NOAAR) and Mental Health America of Dutchess County.

Addiction, chronic illness, and mental health are dimensions in our lives that isolate us. They isolate us from ourselves, from others, and from our spirit. INTERSECTIONS helps us connect and reconnect to reach our full potential.

INTERSECTIONS promotes the reduction of reoccurrence, improved maintenance of recovery plans, and success within family systems and the community.

Modules include:

  • Orientation
  • Meditation
  • Movement
  • Nutrition
  • Mindfulness
  • Personal Visions and Goals
  • Spirituality

INTERSECTIONS is based on a theoretical orientation called The Theory of Dimensionality and is rooted in a Practice-Based Intervention, Dimensional Solution Based Treatment (DSBT).

“We cannot fix you because you are not broken … everybody has stuff. We are all in Recovery from something.”

About MHA Dutchess County

Mental Health America of Dutchess County is a nonprofit organization dedicated to making sure nobody gets left behind in our community due to lack of mental health services. Our staff and volunteers work day and night to:

  • Strengthen families
  • Overcome fear
  • Help people dealing with anxiety
  • Link individuals to the supports they need
  • Provide safe spaces to heal
  • Break down stigma
  • …and much, much more.